WOOD" GOOL11490
23 A Samery, 1"I
Dre Lan visited 16& Do Motablidweat m jazatu7
U049th.
Re is & lecturor, teaddag donietry t0 PAdIftl
DWASRUS at MIS 01801011
Ustitute of the UrAywrolly of MAW# Dwmrk* ISO has
bow MAIM fw
the past rw yoare on pr6blow connected with %h*
searesitlen of tOUSSO,
sucks, and Me publisbed wwwral repars dealing with
Unperst,06
d=ine the combustion of cigarettes, cigars *M
pipwp wA Vith *a
deterrination of the amount of benspyrwo aW ather
aromtie pGay4YO210
hye"carbons formed &wW *.a pyro2yals at diftwent
toVerstum of
allpbiLtic hydroaarbons, isolated from cigarette
wtabs# or of a o4od'
spft*Uo aliphatic kqdroca:ftn# dlowtyl.
More reeentlys be has tooew Interested In two
otbor aspects
(a) the products of the forMw Pyrolysis of
aromatic
polyaplie 19droewbons
(b) the pyrdlytle products of the pbytewterelso
He feels that the possible ro-cambustion of
condensed aromtIs
b1 ftoaarbons Is a greater souros of danger than
Is benspyrene ItsWo
Be dains to have Iodated onall mounts of
pb7tostwolo fron Waco:*
(I soda), In the leaf of wMah thW we kwm to oesur.
Theft stelvi
substances aft hydroaromatic ;z.~.Asp closely
related to "esterols
Vitamin D wA the bile acids. Re van questioned as
to uhsther be wuspeateOp
or W famdo rothrldholanthrens In MA prodwfto*
(This to a Aron"
carcinegmto polywelia lqdroeu-bon OhIch am be
dwivwd by pyrol4sls of cz~p
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certain bile rte!ds, ooge cholle acid.). Dre 14&,4
aftitted that vlh-1.26 the
tho-j&t had occurred to hlnp he b-td been un&Uo to
detect the promenee
of this outstance*
He was shown all the equipmmt used by the Smoke
Oroups Mrors
the autott-naker to the romrdiqg zierophetometer
PM the various techniques
ftployo4 were diem-seed at longth. The dprEers
were orphasised of using
only much techniques as ultra-violet
opectropbotw?etry for tto Identification
md estimtion ef rdero-quRntitioup of Pmtertnlo In
tobace-3 e!"ke and to
with VAR.
The R,-rllmtlcms to whieh Via, rethods Md been
r-it vare Wlained,
--o.g. "fronW tur! nbfte.W of ellmrotter,
atteqqpted 4mtslyriep ate., ond
Dre Lwi appc-trM to 1-o D-premped with the v,,rk
arr! the reaults to date,
go rarpntad is enislyst MUM lcmrer they btirnirg
terTeystiwo -or a ei Motto
ard van interertt-1 te) learn that so fnr ire ~#td
rot been able to sable"
V118 remit.
He luris newr, in fact, worked wit', tobareo bit
hfto eonflned
him atterition to r7rolysts, in a tub* furraeo at
varlo-je ter--eT-at,xrcw, 1-f
the ludr-,hrbons he bas extracted ftin stubs. His
roeftrf-hen to date
have boen entirOy uraided PA be 19 seohi"g a Zrnrt
to c"-pr the majOrY
of a girl technician an aesistart. It was roUted
out to hir that his
conditions of formtIon of bonzMenm etc. vero
high],y artificia2 aM
h,%rMj roe-ambled thirse in a eiMrettoe Ile
to-,u,.A that ti-io ILwmt of
benspyrime forned fell off shaTly with earreare in
ryrolyris t"orature.
The incoralaterey of this obses. tion with the
reciarOod grrater am=t of
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benspyrone rer gm of tobacco eorbusted In Vie ftoo
of pipe Onake (forned
at a relatively lover tv-rerature) was disetweed
vithaft vT fim
conaluttlon bobig reached.
Pis veparatton of arcmtie polyryelie WrocRrbotia
was In agreement
with the ennller findirgs by Dro Hurhas and his
te~rerpLttjre reftinamotits
-tweed with thomof Mr. Crorahav. fie had not
earTled the on-t2yuls of
ne"marmerts to the en" Oegre* ar ifnov ftne at IRA
D.9 nor hoO he
-Mor "One % K" r
_Oerr -el thn effect of ronAuetion itlerg
th!~rnoemtpln I .. A ot
boon vo mirb interorte4 In nbrnlitta y0iiqrs ots
in f1mOing rm,!!My evrr,rnble
cm0ittmiln f'rr h1m 1,.TroYyr-in er-r.-rimentr.
Dr. Y-~m t-.-rrrrrt,!1 1.r%t-!rvst In t1- v-rk rf
!AM"n Ftrd Ceoprr "rd
)in-,M V) rr-i tl!-n r-n his rel.?,.rn to Y!, ime
tsien nnititt to rptrin to
11--v Ntt-4!M-1. Tlr? q!ifrt1--n of in
tol-neas a-ni-n irnw dircunp!r-1 ar-1 be ime
inforri-I nf tbe a'.Yoffernont ulAch
Dr. Vrrtlt.7 artl the writer MA formrd nf t-14,7
v-rk of Nyrneb rind I.Teul,.".
at Laurrinn-v. Y!e nFreeA that on the flinry
evIA-mes whirli tllf'y f'.7tMA, he
vnuld melt 1-9 prer-ared to accipt the Memnes n-V
01.9 ri!-i.Rtftncq In V"kae
Ps raired the queatten of the work of' PnPA art-1
film afinoelfttes,
Welt led to a r1locuesion of the metbe-On useA to
prorlum 1,,?prr Ot-Ire" and
tho eatl"-tivn therein of ben2ryrers 1'.Yy 1vth
thece &M thi French vmkrrs.
The ralatiounhip boWeen the mrimis Eroul,s of
French urri-ro (Cust",
Vuu~41clp 1.^.t-2rj-nt, Royer) was errlainod. Fe
vas urr,~ttf to raise 016
roirt with tby-.m, rince tile rnrpr to
ocrib-,Pterl in a Metly rrtifiet-ml rrvint!r.
Dr. Ln-i reened to ti,ink th,%t at,-!orv1,-r19
pollixtf.,m p1s;v R 'big
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part In the cancer preMsep and apperently boo boom
U71ng to Intered
01 ammon Into doing a sUtIstleal study at the -M
meow
sweetion for GM=Affs Ube pass thrVU6 on undoweand
VALbMY suttee
(in topedhRMI), go mooed partleaUrly 1"ressed by
the vark of M+Ax
and FoU In Lee Anpl"# vh= he visited during b1s
stoy In Canada mid the
14-9*9# Tbey have studied the formation,
composition and biological effects
or *MR. engine SAMMtst Sue
Its had hoped to glean Information cc IwrWI9 vork
at ToroatN
and of a0mrs vhom he visited In the V.S.p e.g.
Tennessee ftstawi* at
Ktqmpwtv Teenn.j. Vynder at Neu York. Lam was very
reticent an these
sapectel he slained vM little )mnwIwIga of Vhat
Writ-hb via doing beforep
during or after his aW* Re fild remark that he
thought Wright's method
or atterptbne, to separate 1".1ce eatoemate tw
Means of Pieria $Laid
precipitations vR,,i rather foalish. ir-mentioned
tbftt Wright had two,
Indifflo Vorking for him anfi that he felt their
vnrk to be unrellable. v9
formed the itTreavic% poesibly orronemsp that hie
stay :in Mood& W not
been altogether hqW*
On the vhole, Ian Impreened us so a sincere an,4
honest vorl-,mr,
vho 15 a reasonably Sao chwist with considomile
experienes in t1le
fractionation of the aromatic VaIML-Uc hydr*mrbons
by cbrautoL-nrbra,
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Kin further vork waidd appear to to alcog the Uses
uwd4med above. Be
eartaUdy meme to be vwtlW of amis flunclal mWert
and waomagenwAs
ftwe he has not been Was In gem%ll to devote bb
wbole t1w to research#
the *xtM% of his work to date in very pralawdew.
The hdp wideh a
--gwd assistant audd give his would be
emsiderables Althav* his work
~-;Js odr "mefted with cdWettes remotely (at one
rvom# so to speak),
nova seep he Is =q1wIM patbusys wbich we
relatively =t"Mans
but which amdd have a bearUg on the proUnne
DI,T/VC/46D
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