DA.L.C.F. 6LAC-jCAf%N. RGH/JP/l 21st June, 1979 VISIT TO'CANADA AND THE U.S.A. 4TH -15TH JUNE, 1979 The following were the main points discussed at the two centres. Some of these items will be written up in more,detail later. 1. MODELS TO PREDICT DELIVERIES 'FROM VENTILATION, FILTRATION', E=. It wa.-. agreed that advanced companies should develop their own models in this area incorporating more local detail than would be possible at Southampton. ITL have a system designed but not yet programmed, while B&W have done about 70% of the programming and testing. At the same time, GR&DC has several contributions to make: - providing some of the basic experimental data; - suggesting the form of prediction equations from studies on a wider range of samples than is available in any one company; - facilitating the flow of information between companies with experience in this area. 2. MODELS OF THE EFF ECTS OF EXPANDED TOBACCO This topic was raised spontaneously by B&W as an area for investigation by GR&DC and some initial steps were agreed. This was before I knew of our more ambitious programme in expanded cc tobaccos, but all that was planned fits comfortably within the framework of the new programme. cc BATCo document for Province of BritiSh Columbia 15 April 1999 2 In Canada, I raised the topic by asking for views on what types of information they would expect to see in our proposed handbook on the uses of expanded tobacco in cigarette design. They had no immediate answers and it was agreed that they would think about the question and that we would contact them again later. 3. BLENDING MODELS Most of the time in Canada was spent in setting up a blend/grade matching model on a local bureau computer using ITL's own O/WP data on their own grades. There was considerable enthusiasm among those directly involved for trying this approach. Bob Gibb is quite naturally reserving judgement until its practical usefulness in the Canadian context has been demonstrated. On the other hand, I pointed out that it would need approximately half a man year of effort on their part to find out the potential usefulness. This seems to have been accepted, though perhaps reluctantly. The question of funding was mentioned only obliquely, but it seems a reasonable compromise that we in Southampton should work on a Canadian problem which has research value to the Group, as an example of more general principles, provided ITL put in a commensurate amount of effort on those aspects which are of use only to them. I have spoken to Graeme Boswall since my return and it appears that they are happy to proceed along these lines. The use of blending models was also discussed at BAW though in less detail. In B&W support for blend modelling comes mainly from the Operational Research and Leaf Departments, the R&D people being less enthusiastic. Their two arguments seem to be (a) leaf blending is a relatively unimportant factor, especially in low delivery cigarettes; (b) to get into this area would CX1 involve a disproportionate amount of effort by B&W's R&D department. cc co BATCo document for Province of British Columbia 16 April 1999 3 To date we have not reached any agreement on this point, except that I would prepare a written proposal for a joint project between B&W and Southampton, to be discussed during Dr. Blackman's coming visit to B&W. To summarise, therefore, we seem to have reached agreement on most points with the two companies: there is just the one question outstanding - namely whether B&W want us to do any work with them on blending. 41' DISTRIBUTION: Dr. L. C. F. Blackman Dr. C. I. Ayres Dr. T. Hirj /Dr. G.A. Few Dr. R. G. Hook 03 co BATCo document for Province of British Columbia IS April 1999