IPM L~T. (O.L ud erpcol Lheiled. flil rcpon muo aol k copied w Ibom Io uPnubwiud pmopr 0\ C: I i I; PDF -!::!!::!!::!.f3 StlC.i: 0111 GROUP A MIDDLE TAR HALES O O 4 U1 \O 0\ 11)16 LA.T. i U.K, nd Eqml L~YT~ npon muu apt a ~i~d or ~bo~ p ~l~m~d PMDL Co C: I i I; PDF -!::!!·!::!:f3 StlC1I: 0111 GROUP A SESSION 1, MIDDLE TAR HALES Restrictions an Sn~ters Horadays A recent exile - in Landon I went up to meet a friend of mine from New Zealand · we were going to go to a show, theatre and dinner that kind of thing and for the first time in my life r discovered you can't smoke anywhere on the Tube stations now, I didn't mind not smoking in a tube train, but I didn't realise you couldn't Imone on a Tube platform even. 1 thought that's a bit heavy. Needless to say me being a stranger in London these days I puffed away like mad and [ gradually noticed all these signs and I thaught that's funny but no·ane bothered to stop AR, Had no reaction from anyone, At the same time I :ealised that this Has another phase of this anti· smoking campaign, I'm extremely worried personally, about the way that you've got minorities trying to Impose thei: views on the majority and they get away with it, Well, not only tube stations. you try to find a smoking compartment on British Rail now · you can't find them, No, it's not law in itself, It's a request, On public transport it's a bye-law - a sort of local law, In shops now they always come up with this answer · it's because of insurance, What annoys me If you go on a bus and you go upstairs (It says) "in the interests ol hygiene passengers are requested not to smoke", I've been on top of a bus several times and i've lit up especially when there's not many people on the bus, First of all you get the cough and then someone turns Found, You're in a nearly empty bus and there's plenty of room downstairs - that's what annoys me, Sm6ting was always O Fecognlsed upstairs, wasn't it? 1986 BA.T. II;.K, md Elponl Lini~d l~hi~ rrpon mwul n# be eopird or Ibwm u,un~luhwi~d p~lonr Q\ C: I i I; PDF -!::!!::!!::!.f3 StlC.i: Dill On the National buses you're only allowed to smoke In the last six seats · that's it, I think it's fair and reasonably personally to ask people not to smoke, I think the ideal situation is where you get a segregated area, The mhjority of smokers are diabolical - some of their habits, i'll give you an example, I used to live at the Technical College and youngsters there - their average age would be up to 20·21 and there used to be fag ash and butts all over the floor, They put them In the saucers, That's the sort of thing that infuriates the majority of non- smokers, I think it's fair and reasonable to ask a person not to smoke if somebody else doesn't smoke, If you've got a segregated area t think that's the ideal Situation, Host reasonable proprietors and places will give an area for people to smoke in, I think it's funny the way you used to have no smoking areas · small no smoking areas, Now you have small smoking areas, The emphasis has changed, Oael Area for SRokerr/Nan·Snakers Reflect the PrpportinnJ of Smoters/Non-Smote:s Around? I often wonder that, Not so long ago the majority of people smoked but what is the ratio nowl Has it gone the other way? It goes by class, doesn't it?.professional classes were much lower, Yesterday or the day before r saw sc~nething interesting about smoking, If you toot at all the old films of the war period everybody used to smoke, Women used to go about with cigarettes hanging out of their mouth, People wanted to know when did the upsurge in smoking come in, I look at all these old b filnr · people were encouraged to smoke, rou gave people a OV 1Plb llr. (U.K, lpd bpnl ~mild. Thit rrpon ma not k eqird w Shown to unu~thwiwd penolu ~j C: I i I; PDF -!::!!::!!::!.f3 StlC.i: 0111 cigarette to calm them down, it was the normal thing, This article was asking how did smoking become so prevalent, It was the normal thing in films. A lot of people jump on the bandwagon for economic reasons really, If you take cinemas · fire prevention business in the cinemas and they were always asking can you try to discourage smoking and they said no, the patrons wouldn't wear it but as soon as it became popular they said oh, yes we'll stop smoking, Of course it stops their cleaning bills, That's got a lot to do with It, Whar Aspects of Smoki?g no rou Think are Negative? The stagnant smell - stale odour, Discarding of the ash and butts · on saucers, in plates, glasses and everything, I smoke between 60 and 80 a day and I have the windows open in my home, winter and sumner even with the central heating on, It costs me more that way, Even I can't stand the smell if it, When I open my front door f can smell it when f walk through the door so I know · for somebody that doesn't smoke · how unpleasant It Is but I won't use restaurants, bars, transport of any description If I. can't smoke, f'll walk out rather than stay there, I: wont spend my money In a restaurant if t can't smoke, I'm not talking about 50 cigarettes but If I can't light up one or a cigar I won't use It, r'il walk out, It's both that I don't like them telling Re not to smoke and because I would mentallylphysfcally feel under some strain, If you're in a room with a fellow smoking aromatic tobacco f can't stand that, 19116 a~.r, lu K. md hponl linld, fhil ~pwl mw~ no(k Eopird w Ihwn to up~hori~d pmonr ~j C: I i I; PDF -!::!!::!!::!.f3 StlC.i: 0111 It's nice. It's not horrible like cigarette smoke. could they not change cigarettes in some way, Pipe tobacco - I can stand that. It's nice actually. Pipe smokers get away with that, don't you. You smoke a pipe and someone walks in your house they wouldn't tate any notice but if you smoke cigrettes they say "can't you open the window?". What Would Make Cigarettes More Acc~ptable? I'd like to see the smoke side of them reduced drastically. You did have some reduced-smoke cigarettes a couple of years ago, I found that very good. (Ex·Charter Research), The nicotine stains on your teeth - get rid of that, Aromatic tobacco · it's alright as long as it doesn't spoil the flavour of your cigarette. I smoke roll·ups now and again, Sometimes it makes me physically sick because of the sell. I like the smell, Even Old Holborn I can stand the snell of that. The Turkish ones, aren't they powerful! The places where people smoke they should have extractors, In the old days sometimes when you'd go in a pub you couldn't 9 see. Nobody had extractdrs in those days and that put people O off but then in those days the pubs used to be full. 1911 ILT. IU.K. LPd EIPM1 Limi~d Thil np mun MI a mpyor lapm to u~tlbo~h~ PMPL ,, C: I i I; PDF -!::!!::!!::!.f3 StlC.i: 0111 Smoke in the Home It's something I've become more aware of - whether it's because I'm smoking more but there seems to be a lot more smoke about these days than there was, I think they burn qui cker, I can smoke a ci garette in less than 10 mi nutes and then I'm lighting another one up therefore my home is full of smoke the whole time, It night be due to that · as far as I can remember I've always smoked 611 a day but I think there's sore smoke now from cigarettes, To a certain extent it may be that people are talking about it more, making me aware of it, I've got a friend who is Welsh, he's a rugby player, and he gave up smoking a year ago and he's just come to stay with me · he's been with me for 3 months and when he first arrived he said i can't stand this and he's got used to it, It's embarrassing me to a certain extent that I smoke he he's in the room but then I thought to hell with this, it's my home so I can do what I like with it, But when he's in and I come through the door even r can smell it when I haven't been there for 3 or 4 hours, I think he's got a point there, But he said to me the other day he's got used to it, He's managed to accept it but it does worry me to a certain extent, Have You Ever Had Anyone Ask You to Stop Snaking? Uhere f work at the moment - Marks ~ Spencers · is dead against anyone smoking in the building, No smoking whatsoever, In my case · a friend of mine was suffering from broncftial trouble, If I go into someones home where they can't smoke or don't like smoke then I wont while I'm with them, I used to rmrk dorm the pit aod you can't sloke there, It Ou never bothered Re down there for 6 or 7 hours, Then r went lseb IhT IU.K. ~nd Elponl lim~G Thi~ rrpon mwl nW k eopi~d w ~hPm to ua~luhai~l pm#u lf·1 C: I i I; PDF -!::!!::!!::!.f3 StlC.i: 0111 an tankers in the Elerchant Navy, On the tankers you can only smoke on the deck, The first couple of days it might bother you but you know on the ship where you can smoke. After the first couple of days it just didn't bother you, I've had people say I wish you wouldn't smoke · they don't actually tell you not to smoke, As far as I's concerned if I think I'm entitled to smoke in that area theyl:e entitled to move away, I was in a restaurant and there were no signs up about smoking and after I'd finished a meal I lit a cigarette and the manager case over and said we don't allow smoking in here, I've got a very fiery temper, I just managed to keep reasonably calm and I just got up · with my two friends · I just got up and said well we':e off, I said then I refuse to pay my bill and I just left it and the three of us walked off and nobody said a dicky bird, Nobody came after us, I would not pay on principle · they could sue me for it · there was no sign up to say ,,, They don't have to say 'no smoking' they could say Iwe prefer you not to smoke', sometimes now I phone up and ask if they've got any restrictions on smoking, It's the - same with pubs · if f can't smoke I wouldn't go in there, I get more pleasure out of smoking than a guy has displeasure in me smoking and I'd tell him so too, I don't agree with that · I think a lot of smokers, especially the younger age group are totally discourteous and I think a lor of older smokers are too, I think it's only right and proper that you regard other peoples wishes, I wouldn't smoke if I thought somebody objected to it because I think its lore objectionable to him my smoking than for me not to have a cigarette, Uhat r have noticed recently and t think it's a bit diabolical is in a snell shop where I went yesterday there var a notice Ino smoking), The Post Office I ure quite [I Often have put a notice up, lots of small shops have put 1916 &A,'f. i U.K. 1 bnl limiad, thb ~on laull na bo copi~d or ~how to un~horh~ pmo~ d C: I i I; PDF -!::!!::!!::!.f3 StlC.i: Dill notices up that they never had a year ago, there are people who are jumping on the bandwagon, I think it's economics · they don't have to clean up, t think its got a lot to do with it, I think if they want to stop school children and students smoking they ought to do a bigger survey an small shops around the schools where they sell a cigarette for 6p, When a shop gets II damaged packet~instead of sending them back they tip them out and sell them for 6p each, They've got to look at this more, How Oo You cope With Situations Where You can't Smoke? I welcome It because it means I'm smoking less, When I first come out of work I really enjoy a cigarette because I haven't smoked for a or 5 hours, I think its all in the Rind, If ycu're in a place where they say you can't smoke it Rakes you automatically want a cigarette, If you can smoke you'l'l probably have one or two but if they say you can't smoke at all then you'll probably smoke more because it makes you want a cigarette all the time knowing that youlre not supposed to smoke and you can't smoke, You Feel like a leper · you have to hide away in a corner if youl:e not allowed to smoke in the place, Just because you know you're not supposed to smoke you're thinking about smoking all the time, A restriction sakes you smoke more, When I'm waiting for the doctor and I know I'm going to be waiting for an hour I think Till pop outside, In prison if you said oh, I: don't smoke I want a cell on my own thereld be pandwaoium, It'd never work, If they said you can only smoke in the exercise yard then everyone would b say let's get in the exercise yard and have a smoke, rhey'd O have riots, 1916 BA.T. (u.K, ud E1~3nl Lim~ud. Thi~ rrpon awt not be eopid or Ihw~n to uuuthoriud pmoan. C: I i I; PDF -!::!!::!!::!.f3 StlC.i: Dill If i go for a walk - say 1/2 hour - during that time 1 won't smoke a cigarette and I don't want one but if I stay indoors for that 1/2 hour I've smoked 2 or 3, I'm compelled to smoke them ·it'E these four welts, I'm boxed in, I think a tot of it is a confinement but 1 won't smoke if I'm in the street, 1 can go probably an hour and even if I light one up I don't really enjoy it, Strange - and yet when I'm at home r will smoke and smoke literally one after another, The same in a pub - if f go for a drink I can smoke 20 cigarettes in an hour and a half, It's terrible, I won't use a place where I can't Smoke, I1RI uneaalo)ied It the moment, I think I smoke through boredom · more through having nothing to do, If I go to people's Rouses and no·one says anything about smoking but I can't find an ashtray anywhere,,,, Meetings i've gone to I smoke when I go to the toilet and then when I come back I don't smoke during that meeting, You go to a theatre or cinema and there's no snaking · In the interval you can't get near the gents toilet, the toilets Packed out, What could be done to make cigarettes more acceptable in there sorts of enviFonentsl Is there sorthing about cigarettes that could be changed into another torn! Chewing it · that would be diabolical, I don't think it would 90 very Hell In this country, this Skoal thing they'Fe bringing out.,,, It originates from the Systeni in kriea there you chew tobacco and spit all day long, To me it's 1 dirty habit that O · spitting alone, This gimmick theylre trying to bring in In IP$ B~.T, II'.K. wlo Elwn~ limHlb fhu noon mnul not be ePpird w thoun to unuu~ixd pn~o~ C: I i I; PDF -!::!!::!!::!.f3 StlC.i: 0111 this country, I don't think it's going to go over very well, I think it's a dead loss, i don't tHnk you can get your satisfaction any other way - nicotine chewing gum and that,,,, A lot of it's d.habit of having It in your hand. bringing it to your nauth and ssoking it -you just can't substitute that, Try snuff, I've chewed tobacco - I used to have n6n-snoters chewing tobacco. Uhen I used to work down the pits - you come up about 1 olclock you used to want a cigarette right away, Sometimes you'd go up for supplies · say at 10 o'cloek · as soon as you got up you'd want a cigarette again, You used to use chewing tobacco down the pit but you never see anybody chewing tobacco an the surface · so it wasn't habit forming, Group ExPDsed to Ca~ee~ They've had them Out far a while · I've got a pal who had some · menthol cigarettes with silver paper, Reactions ~(Pre·iri~l) For a start off you don't know when that's going to kook out, If you're on a long journey and all of a sudden It konts out youlre going to well, I've no more cigarettes · whereas with normal cigarettes you can buy another packet before you start Yauld buy another paclret just in case. 19a6 LA.T.~U.K, rod E~onl lin~iud. T~j noon mlul we k cp~ird or ~m ~ un~u~P~i~d ~mo~u C: I i I; PDF -!::!!::!!::!.f3 StlC.i: 0111 Would it be a cqmplete substitute or could it be used to complement cigarettes? If the advertising blurb is true I think it would be a complete substitute for nost people, If a packet of 6 is equivalent to a packet of 20 and the price is the same I would think it should be fine, It said you have a smoke of it and put it back in the packet, I think if you're getting satisfaction from it you'll just keep smoking it until It konks out. I don't think youlll put it back and then when you want It again take It out, I agree with that, I can have a cigarette, put it out and within a couple of minutes or so I'm lighting another one up, With sosething like that I'd keep It in my mouth the whole day until it ran out ane then I'd stick another one in. The only reason you pt a fag out is because it's burned down, Is it health wise similar to a eigarettel Is there more nicotine in those than a normal fag if you haven't got tobaccol I night find it helpful · when I've tried to pack it in f just crave for that smoke dr I think I do, You could still carry on with those even if you were getting no satisfaction because yould think you were smoking, Have tests been made on this research in America? less Lhf. IU.K, ad Erm) Limlab Thb npn muu Ik co~d or Shown to unlu~horixd pmoa~ 03 C: I i I; PDF -!::!!::!!::!.f3 StlC.i: 0111 ·11· It contains tobacco flavour and nicotine - how do you feet about that? So it still could be unhealthy, I don't think you could compare them to an ordinary cigarette until you've tried one, I don't think, on first glance, that you probably won't get the same satisfaction because I think a lot of the satisfaction is drawing the smoke in and exhaling it so I find It hard to believe that l'd get the same satisfaction from it, You don't know till you try, The only think I think of isediately is the price side or it, I would imagine the government can't tax you the same as tobacco, They'd find a way, Them health cigarettes are a lower price, If a packet of 6 cost the equivalent of 40p in comparison to E1,20 then I'd be very happy to try them but not if they're going to be the same price, t feel I'd like to try them - I smoke 60-80 a day, I'd have to buy 3 packets of those a day, If 3 packets lasted me a day · if I didn't keep It in my mouth until I'd finished It I would welcome it, But if I found that instead of buying 3 packets a day I war buying 5 because I was keeping them going longer than ordinary cigarettes then I wouldn't be interested even though there's no smoke, no smell, I would welcome that side of it but I would Icot at it from a financial point of view, r wouldn't mind them being the same price as an ordinary O cigarette providing I didn't buy any more than 3 packets a day, 19111 Lht. IU.K, ud E~wnl li~n~ud. Thi~ npon mull n# k sqrd or ~hownl to unnnRoriKd p~onr ~D C: I i I; PDF -!::!!::!!::!.f3 StlC.i: 0111 ·~2· Positive Positive Aspects the positive side is f'd love to go in there have one of them in my mouth and when people say 'dan't do this' and 'don't do that' r'd say right now,,,,, How do you convince then? I don't think it would help with restrictions, I think they'd stilt class it as a cigarette and you can't use it in restaurants etc, tt'd be alright for kids at school.,, Or in their bedrooms at home! Youlre not letting off smoke, I still think theyld classify it as a cigarette and say you can't use it, You can have a sweet in your KoUthl,, Does it make you: breath smell? I admire these women who can work with a fag dangling out their mouth because no way can I but these things I could keep them in my mouth all the time, The fact that you'd be able to smoke while you were doing other things · at work,,,, And you're not flicking off ash, And you wouldn't want ashtryasl From the health paint of view · you've got the 8~ continually telling us and forcing governmt rulings on smoking and O haiking the price up, I think if it proved to be less harmful O then they should support it, 1911 LA.T.IU.K. ud elnnnl luniud. This rrpofi mlu~ a he eopa a ~h3nl UI un~ulh~nud pmons 03 C: I i I; PDF -!::!!::!~.f3 StlC.i: 0111 ·13· If there was a way found to stop the government from taxing it too heavy because after all if everyone's going to start smoking these things theylFe going to lose a lot of revenue, I think the single biggest posit've thing about it is that the 2/3 of all fires in U,K, causing loss of life are started by carelessly discarded cigarette materials, It would be a tremendously positive thing if they were universally adopted, I think if I found they were good I'd keep them in my pocket just to use when I can't smoke and then I'd tate a normal fag when I can, Negative Aspects? Everybody's suspicfous especially of advertising and you say well, if that's true it must be a miracle, The only negative is that old habits die hard. I can't see non-smokers or even anti-smokers having any objection, It's going to cause a bit of a stir isn't it · if you're sitting in a bar and six people are sitting there smoking ordinary cigarettes and youlre sitting there smoking one of those things, The fact that you're still smoking - it wouldn't put then (nan·smokefs) off they'd still campaign against it, i don't think they would once they reat(sed, rt'd be a case of educating them, They'd still there's nicotine in them and it's harmful, 1916 LAf. IU,K. md hpml Limi~d. Tlu~ ~pon mu~ ~ b copi~d a! Ihom to uolu~hwiud nulonr C: I i I; PDF -!::!!::!!::!.f3 StlC.i: 0111 -14· IT you buy 6 of them and you' re in 1 pub with your laater and your mates give you a cig and you say have one of mine · there's 6 of you and you've got none left you're going to start snoking ordinary oner, You can hardly start saying these are special ones, It's going to be unsociable, You'd have to pass one round.,, You'd be out of pocket giving them away, If tney':e going to be successful you've got to convince the majority so that everyone's smoking then, I think tneyld just start off as novelty value and then it'd wear off, i think yould start smoking ordinary cigarettes again, Onless they':e very good, Reactions to Product (Past Single Stick TrjalZ I notice it says on the packet Ynot to be sold to miners" · is this because of the nicotine side of it? Same regulations as a conventional cigarette, That'd fit in your back pocket, in your shirt pocket, I can't feel anything yet, It's like sucking a tube, I can't get anything at all and I'm dying for a smoke, It's burning my lips and tongue, 19116 LAf. IU.K. md elnMI L~milld. ~hi~ noon mup wM be rooiad or Ihovn to ~uluhwiKd p~oo~ IV C: I i I; PDF -!::!!::!!::!.f3 StlC.i: 0111 ·15- It goes back to what you said earlier about inhaling · blowing it out of you: mouth and down your nose · that is part and parcel of smoking, I'm doing it the same way I do a normal cigarette, I'm breathing it in and then blowing it out through my nose and there's nothing coming out, Probably why I don't feel anything, I thinking it's a waste of time · it might be alright for those who definitely want to stop smoking, to me it's like drawing in a lot of stagnant smoke, You get that tingling in you: gums, mouth, I think itld be more of an aid to somebody giving up smoking, I like drawing smoke into my mouth and then taking it down, It's like something solid · it's like eating, You could put it in your mouth if you were in a restricted area, jtls like one of those durrmy aids, If you were sitting in a pub and you'd got this in you: hand it could stop you from smoking, Somebody would say · do you want a lightl I can't feel any effect at all, It might be Getter than nothing in a restricted situation, As a substitute for a chronic smoker, I'd rather do without a cigarette myself, O 191b B.A.T. lV.K. ud Ernl liloorb thil noon mwt on k eopicd pr Ihom Io wulholixd pcnnoK \O C: I i I; PDF -!::!!::!!::!.f3 StlC.i: 0111 ·16· It's not even a substitute. So far I've got nothing out of it at all, Packl I think they'd have to do something about the airtight,,,, Also the flap on it is far too much of a bather to open and close, You've got to tate the whole thing out and rip it to open it. It'd be better to have a hole in the top where you could just knock one out. Do you think you could tell when one was exhausted? If I was to put this back in the packet · you wouldn't know which one you'd used, I can't see you getting any satisfaction out of these whatsoever, The only way would be to stop smoking ordinary fags for a while and see if you are getting any taste, We've all been smoking our ordinary dgarettes so we don't know if welre getting any taste or not, I cannot get anything out of it, IPI &b.l. IU.(, md Ernl Lual~d, i~j~ npon mun MI k ro~i~d ca t~wn to un~u~ai~d fnnu 0~ C: I i I; PD F - !::!!::!!::!.f3 st I c.;: n ill GROUP A, SESSIOH 2, MIDDLE IAR MALES (POSt EXTENOEO TAIALI How mary qf you are relatively positive about product? You rationed me to 2 cigarettes a day so I couldn't give it a proper go could I? If I'd had more r'd have smoked more, I rationed them out rather than going straight through them all, I kept going back to it · there was a limited amount of space, (rn the diary,) In my ease they did work out to a packet of cigarettes, I smoke 60·80 cigarettes per day, I analysed it · ~'d cut my cigarettes down by 20 cigarettes a day to 40 cigarettes as against 60·80, I kept going back to them, The first one I had I found the most satisfactory, I think a lot of It is psychological because we were asked before we left this roon at say 11,30 a,m, We were given the first one and I stayed with that until after Ild done the breath test at 3,45 p,RI, I stayed with that 1 Favor cigarette, Normally with conventional cigarettes I'm climbing the wall for one if I've been told you can't smoke · like in hospital, I found by smoking that dne that I didn't even want a conventional cigarette but I still think that was psychological because we were told we don't want you to smoke conventional cigarettes because Itlll show up in your breath test, Then I used them far a couple of hours a day and cut down by smoking of conventional cigarettes to QO a day, I would use them in places where you can't smoke, I would use it as a conventional cigarette if It had more pulling power on it, f found it very hard to draw on it · that was the frustrating thing about It, Also the lack of the smoke · blowing it down your nose and out of your mouth, There again I think that's psychological because you can see e the smoke, If the finish of the cigarette wasn't as solid, O it it was a softer material and also with more pull to it, IPlb BA.T. IU.K. md hponl limlud. ~hu ~pon n~u~t rrm be copi~d or Ihom to M1YLbO~iKd PmORL. ~O C: I i I; PDF -!::!!;i!::!.f3 StlC.i: Dill ·18· It was quite hard to draw and it made my throat sore, Put your finger over the top like that,,,, It was too hard to draw, I took the tip off it, I took the paper tip off and crushed it so i wouldn't get the impregnated use, t was using it like a cigarette holder one time · I took the other tip out of it and put a cigarette in there, I::ied and tried · I've been a heavy smoker all my life, I iust could not get anything out of it, I went giddy puffing away, I've got to agree with you - I didn't get anything out of it whatsoever, I started off quite sceptical · I didn't get any taste for maybe the first day or so but, I kept persevering, I didn't ration myself · I used mine up in about 4 days, As I smoked them more I gradually started getting the taste and I got quite used to then, They were cutting down my ordinary fags · I found that i didn't want a conventional cigarette, I: got quite used to thee, I think a lot Of it was just holding it in may hand that took away some of the craving because you're holding it like a normal cigarette, I wasn't using it purposely to cut down ordinary cigarettes but it just did, f wasn't doing it consciously either but 1: found it did cut me down, If they were on sale I don't think I'd buy them regularly to smoke but I think I'd definitely keep a packet on me for when I'm in places where I can't smoke, b 191 aA.t. I1I.K, md tpofil limild. T~I ~pon m~~ aol k Eopi~d w Shown to un~lu~ircd p~oanr ~\ C: I i I; PDF -!::!!::!!::!.f3 StlC.i: 0111 ·19· I'd agree with that one, If you go some place where you couldn't smoke and you have a packet on you it'd be nice just to be able to pull one but just for that period of time, I was going to have a go in church on Sunday with one but r thought I'd best not, I took my fiance to the doctors and I went to pick her up and I was there about an hour and normally I'd have gone outside to puff away on a rag while I was waiting but I just thaught this is a good time to try one out so I got one out and I just rat puffing hay on that and I was quite happy, Did you get some strange looksl r went in with my mate to the health centre and there was a room full of patients waiting, I got some very odd looks but no·one said anything, When you':e sitting there with what loots like a dummy cigarette drawing on it you do get some funny looks, I went into Boots last Wednesday to pick up a prescription and I stuck one in my mouth and I walked all the way round Boots and no-one said a dicky bird, No·one looked really and t went up to the pharmacy counter and I stood there for 10 minutes waiting for my prescription and even the pharmacist never said anything, I went round to my doctors and r went in there with it in my mouth and the girl behind the desk said what's that so I told her and she said oh, I'd be interested in those, Did anyone try It in a no aokiop Beg? I had one in Tescos Saturday night · I had two · I thought itld be better because it was stronger, 1 got a bit of mickey taking in the pub first off, O 191b &bb (U.L md Eroonl limlud. ~hi~ npcn m~ut rrm k copll w I~om Io un~u~ho~i~d p~onr G3 C: I i I; PDF -!::!!::!!::!.f3 StlC.i: 0111 ·20· I got a funny reaction ffommy mates · they wouldn't touch it, They thought they were going to blow up in their faces · trick cigarettes, I told them what r was doing but they were still very wary of it, They had a few puffs but they thought it was just a joke, It made one or my mates cough, I tried one on a friend and he couldn't see anything in the. When i took out the tip completely, drawing in the air In the room had more effect on my throat than before! Could it be used as a complete substftutel NO, No substitute at all, All agreed, As a supplement? Yes, Yes, Na, I wouldn't because I didn't get anything out of it, I tried it on my wife who's a non·snwker and she said she thaught she could taste a little bit of tobacco but she wasn't sure, Bearing in mind that you said it would be the sane price as conventional cigarettes I wouldn't think that I would boy them prlce·wise or sat~sfaetion·wise, I would pay 60p for 6 - I would 90 posdbly to 70p but I wouldn't go any higher, I think even fOp fs exorbitant ~CI compared to f1,20 for conventional cigarettes, Basically IPlb IA.T. IU.K, ud tprm) Lmd fhb Epon ~nu~ nM k rp~i~d ar Jnun to pluUJ#ljfed p#roar C: I i I; PDF -!::!!::!!::!.f3 StlC.i: 0111 ·21· thete!s not enough satisfaction out of them · they':e very hard to draw on so It takes you longer to get any feeling in the throat or on the tongue from them, If they Improved an that where they were as loose as one of these then I possibly would buy them more, Because there's no taste you' re drawing much harder to tty and get a taste, You get bored, It's a sheer waste of time but they have cut my cigarettes down by 20 a day, I don't feel I could put any price on theta because the price of the cigarettes we smoke now is because of tobacco · how can you put a non·tobacco price on? because tobacco prices are all sheer taxes, I'd pay 50-60p to use them as a supplement to cut me dawn, You':e using it for a purpose then, I;ly top price would be 25p, You've got to think of a realistic figure from the manufacturers point of view · the packaging, the packaging I thought was lousy · very difficult to get in and out. f think they should be wrapped singly because then you'd know you've got one open and you'd know which one It was, That'd be easier ·li~e small cigars, You could have 1 hole in the top of the box and then you a could pop one ~ag in and that would be the first one out again, IPlb &Af. IU.K, lna Elpnl limlub f~dn ~pon m~ aolbs FDPiCd W IhWII 10 UDLUmO~i~d PMOIIL \D C: I i I; PDF -!::!!::!!::!.f3 StlC.i: 0111 -22· Rny problems working out which had been used? Yes, yes, No, I always put the one I'd been smoking on the right-hand side of my packet so I knew that was the one I'd been using, I eventually put the one I was using outside the gold paper separate, It might be better just to have a in a packet · it would bring the price down and you could easily identify the ones you'd been smoking, I tried to put a little pen mark on the one I was using but it didn't seem to take on, i took it out of the packet altogether · the one I was using and put it on the shelf or in my pocket and then when I'd finished it I'd sling it away, I found it hard at first to known when one had finished because T didn't get much taste to start with but when I used it Pore I got used to it more and I could distinguish it, I'm amazed · we must all have different types of systems because I: could not wark It out, It would take me 10 minutes to find out if it had finished · by keeping puffing a~ it · perhaps it is because it's sc hard to puff at to begin with, I used the last one this morning when I got up' and then I went back to the first one that I had out of the packet and f couldn't tell any difference at all, C ]Pllb BA.t. (U.K, md Errnl limited. Thi~ noon mul pOlk EO~d or Ihom to unlutRon~xd pmons C: I i I; PDF -!::!!::!r:!.f3 StlC.i: 0111 -23· ~he main thing I've got against them is that they made my tongue and my lips very sore, I had a few beers on Friday night and my tongue was furred up but after Friday it was alright, My tongue was actually sore, My tongue was prickly · it's something Impregnated in the paper - a sort of stingy sensation, I licked around it got it off · it was on the paper, I get a sore tongue if I change my brand, I found that where you'd smoke a normal fag for 5·10 minutes I was puffing away on them for a lot longer rather than for 5·10 minutes, I found I very guic~ly fell into a pattern of using it · mainly places where you wouldn't have to light It - like driving - ideal for driving where you can stick it in your mouth and YOU don't have to light it but you tend to leave it In your mouth and you';e drawing on it all the time, iherels very little satisfaction ,,, more of a comforter, a dumay, It's just a habit of puffing away on it, I'm used to smoking a conventional cigarette every 15 minutes so keeping one of those in my mouth all the time isn't any different, I just kept it in my mouth, Bet.te: than a pencil or bit ofp~~stic that locks like a Cigarette? Yes, because you do get a bit of taste from it, 191b B.AT IU.K, md Elponl ~r~Hltl. Thir rrpon mrl Ik eopid or Ihom to unnn~iJ p~ncnr ClibPDF -!::!~.f3stlc.cnlnn .24. Better than nothing in a situation where you couldn't smoke a normal cigarette? yes (general agreement), I disagree · I don't think it's a substitute at all, It might be something for ncn·smokers to play around with - we'Fe biased against anything · it's not even a mild cigarette at all, If I were in a glace where cigarettes were totally banned then I probably would try these but it would just be to carry me dye:, f'd still be gasping for a real smoke anyway, The only conaaent I got from other people was · oh, you've given up smoking. A lot of people showed interest · they said they night try it If it was on the market, Definitely less smoke, there was no smoke at all, If found it had more novelty value with my friends, I don't think it would get much beyond the novelty value stage in this country, Would it sell? I think it would selt · only sell as a gimmick not as a substitute for smoking, It depends whether you found you were able to cut your conventional cigarettes down, If people could use them in P that way they possibly would buy them, O 191b BA.T IO.K, md &wfil ~mi~d. Thi~ Man nun PM k t0pPd a ~hs~n to unu~t~is~d p~nco~ h) ·25· if the doctor said you can't smoke · go on these..,, You'd only use them for a purpose, I think people would just keep one packet for when they can't smoke normally · they won't buy them every day, They'd just keep a packet on them for when they can't smoke, It's a limited market, I'd like to be put in aroon for 1 week with just Favor and then at the end of that ,,, I think I would get sufficient Satisfaction out of them not to want a conventional cigarette because I did in that first 4 hours last Wednesday and then come out and see how quickly I picked up a conventional ci garette, I'd like to try that, If there were nicotine free ,,, that's injurious to health, Medically I would think more people would go for them, If they were going to get the same satisfaction out of them which they could do if they had more kick in them and were easier to draw on · I think they could tate over from that point of view, Do away with the plastic · more flavour, In my opinion I don't think they'd even get off the ground · not once people realised what they're all about, If people thought they':e health would improve ,,, How would you sell itl Yould have to change the wrapping, Ybu'd have to change the O make·up of the fag · they're plastic so they':e just going to Q lie about all eve: the place, ~P 1916 BAT. IU.K. ~nd Erponl limvlk Ihil noon milli not k copid w Ihovn to uounbori~d pcnonr \O C: I i I; PDF -!::!!::!!::!.f3 StlC.i: 0111 ·25· If I were going to market that Ild have to do it on the grounds that it's mainly aimed at non-smokers or people that want to give up smoking, Youl:e going to lose the smoking market as well if people are going to try these things just to give up smoking, that's why theyld be expensive, No, they can't be expensive as a product because most of the cost of tobacco is just sheer tax, You could manufacture those by the million at a penny each, The biggest single item would be if the medical world were to write them up as a good product · not injurious to health, How would you feel if BMA did say they were healthier? They'd still have to improve the product, Theyld have to make them easter to draw on (general agreement), they]d have to be more like a conventional cigarette with more satisfaction, You':e still losing out on the smoke · blowing it out of your nose and your mouth, There really isn't anything there apart from the nicotine taste, Price·nise Eheylre not a good buy, They haven't put a price on the yet, They raid the same as a conventional cigarette price, didn't they? 19116 11,6t. IU.K, md Elp~nl Cmld Thit ~on rmut noc a rppi~ w Ilwn to IO~bO~Kd PIOWI. \C C: I i I; PDF -!::!!::!!::!.f3 StlC.i: 0111 ·21· Cigarettes in America are a lot cheaper than ours, I used to buy my packets of 50s for 121p, There is talk now about banning smoking and driving, I think if that ever came in then they could sweep the market, Theatres you can step outside or doctors you can step outside but like a lorry drive: he can't keep stopping for a fag, Its got to the stage for some people where you can only smoke in your own home and If yOu're on your Own, Nobody can deny you that right, TheylFe trying to do, They're trying to ban smoking every place possible now. If they do take off they'll get more popular as the places you can smoke decrease, They'd like people to give up altogether, I wouldn't give up · I'd grow my own tobacco, I've thought the whole way through the test this has been a dummy con trick, I thought that at first but having sated them through the 5 days I basically think they are a good idea, I think with the right marketing they could take off, Yes, so do I, 198a B.~.T. 10.K. 1~ Elffll limed. Thb apn ~I. MI k copid ol Shown to unll~hwiKd pooal. U1 C: I i I; PDF -!::!!::!!::!.f3 StlC.i: 0111 -28- Other variants That's just as hard to draw on · it's the same, there's no smell to them, What dothey mean by tobacco smell? What have they done to make it stronger - is it more nicotine? That was better than the other one · must wore taste, Still falls short on draw, If draw could be improved,, It could be a health product · you've got to draw in so hard I suppose it would make your lungs stronger, If you assume we're all heavy smokers in this roon I think this would suit us better, Low tar smokers sight find this a hit strong, It's not right but it's better, I jurt couldn't get on with it · very tingly at the hack of the throat but no satisfaction, I'm the same I can't get nothing out of it, You';e never going to replace the satisfaction of smoke but that's better than the first one, It seems to me that if they do persist with the chemicals there will one day be a substitute for cigarettes eventually, They've got to mellow the harshness but strengthen the taste, O Itls stronger In your throat. a IPlb B~.T IU.K, ud Eqonl Limad ~hil npon muu not k wpiea w ~h6rm to wnuhoi~d pnonr C: I i I; PD F - ~!::!.f3 st I c.;: n ill ·29· Menthol I smoke menthol when I've got a cold - i find they help, I get bored with smoking them all the time, There's no tobacco taste with the menthol one, I think that's the best of the three, I don't normally smoke menthol but I think that's the best, It's not so harsh on the throat, It's easier to draw, The irritation is a lot lass, Yes, It's easter to draw (genefal agreement), IPW LLT. (V.K ud Erponl liniJ.'fhi~ ~porl m~u~ mn k co~i~ or thpvn to uatulhwiwd ~mPlu. GROUP B MIDOLE'TAR FEMALES P O 4 111 9 IOW ilLT. IU,K. Ild E~pPnl L~o~rd f~i cpon sun a# k qY w I~om lp ua~u~o~iwd ~nonr CO C: I i I; PDF -!::!!::!!::!.f3 StlC.i: 0111 ·30· GROUP , SESSION i, MI001E tAR FEI~LES Restrictions on sr~Rlkers nowadays It's getting terrible · it's worst, You feel like a criminal, You can't go up to London non on a train and smoke unless you stand in the buffet car, There's not one smokers compartment at all, It's terrible, If you get a carriage by yourself you might be lucky and get away with it but basically if you're travelling to london and the train is full you have to stand in the buffet car where you buy the food, It's ridiculous, Every shop you go in you can't smoke because it's a food shop but they'll Jet you stand at the bar smoking and they're serving food, Its like youlre not allowed to sake behind the bar but you're getting so much smoke over It I can't see what difference it makes, Theatres I can understand, Cinemas · half and half, Most restaurants, of fi ct, They' ve said they 're going to stop it on the buses · even upstairs, There even is a notice upstairs in buses asking you not to smoke, I don't think there are many places where you can smoke ,,, Only out in the street and then you get these stupid people come and chop your cigarette off they do · when they've got this action day for non-smoking), That actually happened - in the precinct, I clouted him, r said, loot I buy then, it's my health, it I want to smoke myself to death r will, ; 191b I1A.T.IU.K md E~Pnl liua bjl npwr mon not a api~d or Ihom w un~uhri~d PLMIIl 9 C: I i I; PDF -!::!!::!!::!.f3 stlc.;: nill ·31· f had someone being unpleasant on the top of the bus, I went upstairs to smoke and I had a complaint from behind me · just nasty insults against smokers so I turned round and told him what I thought - downstairs is for you, upstairs is for me ,, f'd climbed the stairs to have a fag, You don't smoke if there's a 'no smoking' sign - you respect that, My brother doesn't smoke · nobody in his family does and when I go there I respect his wishes or I111 go out in the garden because I can't go a day without a smoke but I won't smoke in his house because they just don't like It. For people who don't smoke the smell In your house must be vile well, it is in your own, But I was getting to the paint where I wouldn't have.a cigarette in my flat if I had a non-smoker in, It was getting me to such a pitch that I thought oh, they don't like It. Now my attitude is I'11 cut down when there's a non·smoker there but I will ~f go without a cigarette just because they don't like It. in your own hone I can do what I like, My grandchildren · they hate it, lily kids do as well, Until they get to being teenagers, I don't know, my san is 16 and he goes mad if I light a cigarette up, My daughter doesn't and she was terrible when she was younger, I. know a lot of the are like that, 1 think yau':e wrong to let children rule what you de, 1911 RA.T. IU.L ua El~al linud Thir rrpcn mun nnl ha co~i~d or ~howo to un~oliwd p~nom O C: I i I; PDF -!::!!::!!::!.f3 StlC.i: 0111 ·32· You should set an example to kids but you don't let them rule your life like that, What tbipgs about rmckinc] out off non-r~ol~efs mo3t? Inhaling our smoke, the smell of the smoke, They've got a reason why other people shouldn't smoke - I can't just say well its ruining my health · if theylre Inhaling the smoke, I can only go by reports that say its bad for non· smokers as well, You can't take on that worry for everybody else, For your own family though · my husband and son don't smoke, If you really felt that bad about it yould never touch another cigarette, It irritates other people's throat and eyes, If you go into a pub where 90X of people are smoking it does bother you, Since f started smoking I haven't had so many colds, I read up about it and it's something to do with the smoke affects the inside of your nose, Once upon a time non·snokers wouldn't dare to say what they say now, Non it's been made so known that it's wrong to smoke that you take quite a lot of knocks, You've got the doctors behind them now, I don't believe it causes cancer to that extent, I've had 3 O relations die of lung cancer that never roked in their lives, O 1916 LhT. IU.K, ud Elppnl ~wd Thi~ npon mvw d he EOPi~d Y Shown ID u~whori~d pmP~u ·33· l think other people in their own homes are thinking about decoration . it does discolour, lhe snell of - old smoke, f don't like it as a smoker, You: curtains, your clothes, you: furniture, I open our windows every morning, How do you ape with situations where smdking it not allowed? i find it very hard, fhe more people say to me that I can't smoke the more I want to, If I know I can't smoke I really want to, I want to smoke more because I can't, I: get quite uptight about it.irritable, I used to be like that but I'm accepting it more now, In fact I quite like it because it stops me smoking, I find myself sitting downstairs on a bus so I can't have a cigarette, If I go upstairs I'11 automatically have one, You make up for it when you get home though, ['11 have one a soon as it's possible, If I make a phone call I automatically have 1 cigarette, It's crazy, I do to, I've got to have a cigarette in my hand to make a call, r go to playgroup in the morning and I wouldn't dream of smoking there, It's because youlre occupied, The first thing f do when I get indoors though is to light one up, O 1911 LA.T. IU.K. ~nd E~onl BpbT1~I t~p~n mw w~ k ~opi~d m ~*n lp un~ha~onwd p~a~ C: I i I; PDF -!::!!::!!::!.f3 StlC.i: 0111 ·34- how would_ycu change cigarettes? Cut down on the smoke · definitely, They've tried that though, I can't see how they can do it · when there's not a lot or smoke you can't feel as If you've had a drag · those low tar things, Ue tried them once · ten I. came home my daughter said, oh great, but when f smoked them · ugh! With conventional cigarettes some are more smoky than others, These ones that I'm smoking now - they do give off a bit of smoke, If it would give off a nice snell it wouldn't be so bad, Like an aromatic pipe smoker · it's quite pleasant to me, Or cigars · I like cigars 1 love then, I used to smoke Marlboro and I changed because I couldn't stand the smell, Ild definitely cut cut the nicotine, Nicotine makes your teeth go yellow, It discolours your net curtains, Its the tar, isn't it, I've tried the chewing gum and it didn't work. It cost me The false cigarette · that's the only thing that worked with me, It was years ago, You can't get then anywhere, Herbals aren't too bad if you can stand the taste, b I found the chewing gum gave me a sure throat, P IOBb B.A.T. IV.K. mi bpon) Liaa~d.'lhi~ Ppon ~nuR n# be eopird or ~hom u,lllluW~d pmP~u. C: I i I; PDF -!::!!::!!::!.f3 StlC.i: 0111 ·35· It gave me indigestion, (6 had tried Nlcorette chewing gum,) I tried the tablets · they're supposed to make you feel sick when you light your cigarette, It didn't do anything to me, they're all ways of trying to stop smoking, I didn't want to take tablets for years and years, Group Exposed to Conc~p~ How would other pettle react? They would laugh, They wouldn't believe it, It wouldn't bathe: me · people would come accustomed to it, Unless it was very well advertised, Situations for using it? Places where you can't smoke - Instead of waiting for the intermission you might get one out, i. don't think you would use It unless there was a terrific publicity campaign, I think people in the theatre would see you taking it out and they'd tap you on the shoulder and say no smoking, You can't do that · you can't sit there with an unlit cigarette in your hand, You imagine doing that in a doctors welting room · people wouldn't have it, It's just not acceptable, I'd do it just to see their reactions I can't wait, IPI1 a ~.T. IU.K, md Etpwtl Lml~d, ni, n,muu n~ol a EopU w ~lwm to unnuhorilrd pnonr C: I i I; PDF -!::!!::!!::!.f3 StlC.i: 0111 ·36· There again you're bound to get some burk that lights it for you, I'd love to get mi own back on nan·saokers · puff it in front of their face, How wouldyou use product? I wouldn't take it to the cinaa. Ild go straight over to it as (a substitute), I would as well - if I liked It, Depends on what you get from it, Uhen you inhale, · what's the point of exhaling if you've got nothing to come out? Does it give you sore throats or a srokers cough? Really we're the guinea-pigs · what if we all drop dead? I think you've got to be careful · someone might be pregnant, I feel that on all cigarettes now they should actually have what's on all cigarettes on the box, Not just lowlmiddle tar, Going from 555 to Raffles rid like to know what's in then · the way they bum, There's no way of telling is therel I feel very strongly on that, Fra health point of view? It'd be better for you - surely, O 191b al.T. (C.K, ud Elyn~ LMild. ~hi~ Irpon mua w k copird or IRoun to uolulb#i~d pcnom. C~ C: I i I; PDF -!::!!::!!::!.f3 StlC.i: 0111 -31- It's supposed to be the tar that does the damage, isn't it, fhe nicotine is wnat gets you addicted to cigarettes, P:lcel It should be the sane as 20 conventional, It should be tower, f can't see people paying fr,30 for 6 cigarettes, how long does one last? Reactions toptoduct (single stick trial) What we do for ncn·smokers! It's like a tape cassette hox, Wouldn't take up so much roon, You want need a lighter, They'd lose their flavour if they weren't wrapped, You'd still need to keep them away from the children, I: think it's a good way of giving up cigarettes · you can't get the packet open, f was just going to get my lighter, I'm not getting anything, Nor am i, I am · it's not Lad, I just feel lost because there's no smoke, O 191b L~.T. IC.K, lo~ Elpnl kl~d, thil rrpon mull n0lk cOPi~ Or shorm lp Mlus~i~d p~onr C: I i I; PDF -!::!!::!!::!.f3 StlC.i: 0111 ·38- I'm getting nicotine, I can taste it · sort of tingling · on my lips and tongue, Nothing - just a cold draught going aown my throat, (5 getting nothing) It does catch your throat, It made me cough, Uhat mates you cough is because you haven't taken the smoke in you don't know when to breath it out and then you're drawing again and it makes you cough, I think a lot or smokers enjoy the ssoke and the ash trays, It's terrible, isn't it, You want to pot it down and see It burning, You've really got to draw before you get anything, Couldn't they sake it of paper · it's really hard, It toots like a trick cigarette because it's hard and it has no tip on the end of it, That hot taste I don't get until I start exhaling, This tastes just like that chewing gum, i think it's alright because if you really draw on it hard enough it's got a kick at the back of your throat, Packaging? Packaging is poor · you've got a job to open it, iou rip the top of the box · the hinge, They need a flat thing so you can pull it, IPI B.A.T. IC.K. md Etpon) limllrd, thil rpon mull not k copud or Ihorm to un~u~ori~d pmwu. C: I i I; PDF -!::!!::!!::!.f3 StlC.i: 0111 ·39- You can't put it back in either, To me it looks like a packet of children's crayons, It is a bit tatty, If you saw them on I cigarette stand r don't think you'd take much notice of them, how Would you tell when one was exhausted? I wouldn't know, Uhen It stops biting · it's stopping now, Ild probably leave it around · hopeful it might come back, I'm drawing twice on it instead of once to get more, I still think if they changed the price of a 20 packet it's too much, You've only got 6, You want to sec what you've got far your money, I don't know if its my imagination but when you go to inhale It, it feels like inhaling smoke, I really thought I had a mouthful of smoke, It really felt like it, Conventional cigarettes Ire low·irritant and I think that's why I don't like this because It's much hotter, No, if that's all there is, I don't think f'T1 bother, I111 have to buy a stronger cigarette than Raffles after this because they are stronger, IPW Bd.T. IU.K, md bwnl ~nr~d Thu Irpon mwl not k eouild or Ihom in uaw~hori~d pcnon~ C: I i I; PDF -!::!!::!!::!.f3 StlC.i: 0111 ·40· Using in front of other peqele Wouldn't mind, If I liked It it wouldn't botner me at all, It would stop the social thing of handing cigarettes out, I'm afraid I'd begrudge giving one at that price, It's terrible, I just wouldn't give them out, When I had I'e6rette I was giving that out · that's dear · I was giving i: to different friends and they were chewing it and throwing (t away and I thought that's a lot of money, 1116 B.A.T. I1'.K, ud bponl linultb Thir opn mw n~p~ k ega or Ihom lp un~ulhori~d PUIWL C: I i I; PDF -!::!!::!!::!.f3 StlC.i: 0111 ·~1· GROI;P 8, SESSIOH 2, MIOOLE WI FEMALES (POST EXTEHOEO ~IRL) Could product be a total substitute for cigarettes? I think it could be eventually if It wasn't so harsh, I wouldn't like to use it as it is now, Well, I th'nk if it was not so harsh · maybe menthol would be cooler on your throat · but I would like it more supple · it's just like holding a piece of chalk, The tips started to chip - it got quite sharp, The actual plastic chips, To be quite honest I had to drag on them so hard to get anything through them I probably did ?1?1? the thing out, If they made them more like a conventional cigarette, The whole feel of it has got to be different, I think that's what puts you off .you know you're not smoking a real cigarette because of the feel, I think the whole thing about smoking is the aht:ay, flicking. the ash, stubbing it out · seeing the smoke that is the whole enjoyment - I missed that especially after a meal I was dragging away and I didn't get anything, I didn't like it that you didn't get any sensation when you drew in until you drew out, Oh, I got that when I drew In · a real burn at the back of my throat and then it made me cough, I found the tip (when it was new) you're lips bunt, As it ya running out it got weaker, ~P 19111 BA.T. IV.K. ~1 f~pMII limrd. Thil npon mw~ no~ bo eopid m Ilwnn to unlulhon~d pmW O C: I i I; PDF -!::!!::!!::!.f3 StlC.i: 0111 ·42· Itwasn'tmy throat sauch Itwa my lip, Itwas terrible, One day I had one of those cigarettes after I'd had a proper cigarette and I ealdn't have any more because I had to give it a chance to heal, It was just a mass of mouth ulcen because I always smoke on the same place and also the lip as well, It was quite strong, I didn't think the effect of it was but the thing on my lip was quite bad, I didn't notice anything at all. 1 got the burning on my lips but i didn't get any blisters or anything, Na, it couldn't replace cigarettes, (6eneral agreement,) As a supplaent? 1 wouldnlt, I'd rather do without, hot for toe, I think it could be quite good if you wanted to give up soiki ng, I'd sooner go without than use that, I'd nip in the loo and have a crafty one, I'd just go without - bite my nails, I would probably use them if r had to go all day · like when I go to my brothers end I can't smoke, I would probably take a a couple with me fat that reason, IP$ BA.T.IU.K. 1114 Etwnl L~N~d.'lhh npan mWI Mt k EOphd A IIIPn 10 UA~hOljl~ ACMAL