PRIVA7E & CONFIDENTIAL. C_ 7 RESEARCB CONFERENCE HELD AT KRONBERG 6 th JUNE, 1969. 2 nd Present: S. J. Green (Chairman) 1".-:-.1; 7. Sir Charles Ellis D. G. Felton 2 7 "N I.OL; 1;9-59 W B F d . or . yce .-: .. ........ .. ............. R. B. Griffith I. W Hughes ... . . . ... ............. R. A Sanford F. Seehofer . ............ 11. Sottorf . ............. R. S. Wade MINUTES In resp onse to several requests it was decided to expand the minutes somewhat for this Conference, but each member agreed to be responsible for presenting a full story to his Company management if this is required. 2. The Conclusions of the previous Conference were reviewed. 3. It was suggested that the the U.K. representatives should emphasise at the T.S. C. "Skin-Painting Conference" their interest in the T4/T29 comparison. This appears to be a significant alteration in mouse-skin bioassay reaction brought about by an alteration in tobacco composition. T. R. C. are hampered in following this up by the practical difficulties of specifying the actual compositions of T4 and T29. The Conference agreed to invite T. S.C. to communicate their findings to Dr. Griffith of the University of Kentucky, explaining why they could not follow them up and hoping that the University of Kentucky would use the wide range of tobaccos at their disposal, of known genetic origin, to investigate how great a variation in "mouse- skin reaction" could occur within a conventional classification, e.g. Virginian flue-cured, Burley, Oriental, etc. Following a discussion of the differences in the bioassay results on T.R. C. samples T4 and T29, Dr. Hughes agreed to produce a paper on the laboratory tests which could be made to investigate this. 4. Fractionation experiments at Harroqate. The Conference devoted some time to considering the value of this line of research. They took note of the T. S.C. paper E 1628, which attempted to set out the objectives. The general opinion was that this work should be continued in the hope that it would be possible to identify specific initiators and promoters. CD 110 co /2. c0 BATCo document for Province of British Columbia 9 November 1999 5. Herr Sottorf re-~Aewed the Lokstedt I Programme, and mentioned that the Lokstedt II Programme would include different reconstituted tobaccos; it is not yet clear when these results would be published. Mr. Wade outLined the new projects which the Canadian Industry would be suppcrting at McGill University and the University of Montreal. Dr. Felton agreed to ensure that Montreal were kept informed of similar studies by Dr. Fletcher and others supported by T. R. C. 6. The position in the United States, with respect to the gas phase, was discussed, and the general opinion is that this will become an important issue, and that some publication of the analytical results for certain gas phase constituents will be made within the near future - possibly within one year. It was guessed that the constituents which will be measured would be selected from the following: acrolein, carbon monoxide, formaldehyde, sulphur dioxide, nitrosamines, formic acid, oxides of nitrogen, hydrogen sulphide, hydrogen cyanide, and phenols. It is likely that this will lead to great activity in the areas of charcoal and water filters. Dr. Sanford undertook to produce a list of analytical methods and their costs, and methods of removal; Dr. Felton will consider toxicity aspec--s and the problem of estimating the overall toxicity of the gas phase. 7. Dr. Griffith e--,mressed the view that H,E.W. accept that a mouse- skin safer ciaarette is a worthwhile objective and the Conference reaffirmed their opinion that this was a worthwhile objective for Group Research. 8. "Bridqinq the Gap". The Conference agreed that this was an experimental problem which could be specified and attacked experimentally. They accepted that to make a start on this, it was necessary to set up some hypothetical model of how smoke aerosol could cause cancer in the basal cells of the humah'luqg epithelium. n. ey accepted that the views advanced by Sir Charles Ellis could form one such hypothesis. and could form a basis for an investigation. In broad terms, they supported an investigation into the absorption of smoke constituents by the mucus of the lung, the identification of what was absorbed, and what changes occurred in time. They recognised the significance of studying the effects on the basal cells of such a modified mucus blanket, but realised that it constit7ited a major and difficult research project that lay beyond the resources currently available to members. 9. Short-term toldcity and other tests. Historically, bioassay c:::) experiments were undertaken by the Industry with the object of 11~0 CO CO C=) BATCo document for Province of British Columbia 9 November 1999 clarifying the role of smoke constituents in pulmonary carcino- genesis. The most widely used of these methods, mouse-skin painting, proved onerous and time-consuming, and therefore expensive to carry out and attempts were made to find "short- term tests". Many such have been proposcad and developed, and it is important to note that they were regarded and assessed as more speedy tests for cardinogenesis, or at the least as screening tests for which samples should go forward to long- term painting tests. When, however, it began to be appreciated that the physiological effects of smoke aerosol in the broad field of "bronchitis" were important in their own right, as distinct from carcinogenic effects, it became apparent that some of the short-term tests might be more directly relevant to this phenomenon. Thus the current position is dominated by the uncertainty of the role. of the short-term tests, and the profound effect that the resolution of this uncertainty would have on the use of mouse-skin painting. A priori, it seems unlikely that a short-term test can give relevant indications on what is essentially a long-term process, unless and until we can identify the early callular changes leading to carcinogenesis. At present, this is not in sight. On the other hand, long-term and short-term are descriptive phrases which must be interpreted in relation to the life cycle of the organism being studied, and there is a possibility that the experiments taking place at R. & D.E. , Southampton, with the membrane of the chicken embryo might be showing genuine carcinogenic effects in days. The conclusion of the Conference was that at the pre.5ent time the Industry had to recognise the possibility of distinct adverse health reactions to smoke aerosol: (a) Lung Cancer (b) Emphysema and bronchitis and present and future bioassay tests could usefully be classified according to their applicability to one or other or to both. 10. The hyperplasia test has been developed into a dependable empirical technique that can be used to grade smoke condensates. It shows a high but not complete correlation with mouse-skin bioassay. It is probably closely related to "bronchitic effects" but the nature of this relation is not understood. The sebaceous gland technique c0 co C:D /4. U1.4 1-n U1 BATCo document for Province of BritiSh Columbia 9 November 1999 - 4 - has been studied intensively and there is a body of expert opinion which considers that it is possible that it may correlate closely with longer-term carcinogenic effects. The majority of the other many biological reactions that have been studied seem more related to immediate toxic effects than anything else. The Conference took note with interest of B.A.T. (Hamburg) experiments and also of T. R. C.'s collaboration with Professor Latner on studying the relative amount of Lactic Acid Dehydrogenase isoenzymes. In an attempt to take a broad view of this complicated situation, the Conferance reached the following conclusions: (a) In the foreseeable future, say five years, mouse-skin painting would remain as the ultimate court of appeal on carcinogenic effects. - (b) There was a possibility that short-term cellular phenomena such as hyperplasia, sebaceous gland suppression, alteration in cell metabolism, reaction of chicken embryo membrane, might develop sufficient credibility to lighten the burden of mouse-skin work by screening. M However the preceeding decision developed, it was already clear that techniques such as hyperplasia, observation of goblet cell activity, and anything that could be directly related to changes in cell behaviourism marited intensive study in their own right. The immediate action agreed was: W To acc-:!pt and use hyperplasia as an empirical grading system of tobacco smoke under the proviso that this interpretation of the results was the responsibility of the user. (ii) To support research into the meaning and interpretation at the cellular level of the various short-term tests - 11. Dr. Green stated that hyperplasia tests could be made available to members for about $ 1 , 000 per test - Dr. Griffith and Herr Sottorf felt that greater sensitivity might be required before adopting this test routinely but Dr. Fordyce was of the opinion that vttempts at further refinement would be a waste of time. It was agreed, however, that, with a test of this nature, it would be wise to take samples with maximum differences in order to establish the trend likely to be found with commercial samples rather than submit proposed C=) and current brands. I'D CO 00 CD 011 BATCo document for Province of BritiSh Columbia 9 November 1999 - 5 - 12. Dr. Seehofer suggested that It was desirable to discover in all short-term tests the dose level which gave a constant and optimal response rather than to assume that all dose response relationships were linear. It was agreed to consider this in relation to all our short-term tests. 13. Members agreed that the results of all the work done on samples from individual companies could be circulated to all members of the Biological Testing Committee, preferably identified by code numbers. Dr. Green said that the intention was that the results of tests specifically paid for by a sponsor would not be circulated without the permission of the sponsor. * 14. Mr. Wade agreed to ask Dr. Nisbet (Montreal) to circulate a note on his suggestions regarding antagonistic relationships between smoke constituents and metabolic intermediates. 15. Following a discussion on the progress to date on the measurement of small solid particles in smoke deposits, Dr. Sanford agreed to circulate articles supplied by WITCO and Pittsburgh companies suggesting that the inhalation of small carbon particles was not hazardous. Dr. Green agreed to approach AMCEL and Tennessee Eastman for their views of the possibility of risk from the inhalation of small fragments of cellulose acetate. 16. The Conference reviewed the progress made in reducing the amount of carbon monoxide In smoke and agreed that it was very unlikely that a substantial reduction would be achieved by filtration, and therefore attention is being given to alteration in the factors controlling combustion conditions or overall reduction of the gas phase by ventilation. 17. Dr. Green drew attention to the proposed non-tobacco "cigarette" which, it is said, will be marketed by Courtauld's Ltd. , at the end of 1969. This is believed to contain oxidised viscose staple fibre and iron oxide, to be free from nicotine and to be undergoing a superficial bioassay test programme. It was the view of the Conference that such smoking materials should be the subject of serious biological study before being offered to the public but the difficulties of achieving this in all cases were recognised. It was agreed that T. R. C. should be urged to apply all available methods of bioassay to effect a comparison of non-tobacco smoking materials, e. g - lettuce etc. , with conventional tobaccos. 18. The work on the microbiological flora of tobacco had been started at R. & D.E. , Southampton. So far, there would appear to be no danger from bacteria, but work was continuing on moulds where CD there might be a hazard associated with mycotoxins. Dr. Sanford CO cc C:) /6. U-4 BATCo document for Province of British Columbia 9 November 1999 - 6 - said that Louisville were in agreement with this view. 19. Dr. Green described the NAC cigarette case which carried a radioactive substance claimed to reducL, TPM and nicotine in the smoke of cigarettes stored in the case, and said that, in addition to being ineffective, it contravened the U.K. Ionising Radiation Regulations. 20. It was agreed that it would be helpful if bodies such as T. R. C. could be urged to investigate the smoke from cigarettes made from tobacco claimed to be free from pesticides and lower than normal in fungal spores, e.g. VENTURE. 21. The Conference reviewed Dr. A. K. Armitage's paper on nicotine, which confirms the intuitive approach which has guided Group research on nicotine in the past. 22. Following a discussion on the possible relevance of free radicals, Dr. Fordyce undertook to formulate a research programme which might resolve the matter, and which could be undertaken by one of the bigger laboratories. 23. A discussion followed on the criteria which might be adopted in considering new smoking materials, modified cigarettes with health orientation, and changes in commercial cigarettes. It was agreed that the criteria included: W Mouse-skin painting (ii) Hyperplasia tests (iii) Chemical analyses for carbon monoxide and other gas phase components, as well as other chemical substances, e.g. benzpyrene (iv) Goblet cell test (V) cytotoxicity tests (vi) Ciliastasis and paramecium tosts 24. Following this, a question was raised concerning the desirability and difficulty of weighting these tests in- som-, way. Dr. Green proposed an approach based on the analysis of the important factors common to all tests, and rating these numerically in importance. Each specific test may then be assessed in terms of these factors to yield an overall summation representing the relative weighting. CO CO /7. CO BATCo document for Province of BritiSh Columbia 9 November 1999 The Conference felt this approach was worth pursuing further and Dr. Green agreed to attempt this with the help of research staff at Southampton. 25. The Conference reviewed the progress of studies of smoking behaviour in the U.K. , U.S.A. and Germany, carried out since the last meeting and concluded that these were important not only from the aspect of smoking and health, but also because of the light shed on market requirements. For example, it has been indicated that smoking consumption tends to vary with the bodyweight, which might lead to the suggestion of lighter, thinner cigarettes for women; there is also some evidence that heavy smokers tend to maintain their intake of smoke constant, even when the size of the cigarette or its delivery of TPM is changed. If this finding were to be confirmed, it would be a matter of great significance, particularly in relation to the social objectives in publishing TPM figures. In view of the likelihood that smokers may modify their smoking habits when presented with impingement filters, ventilated and cther unconventional filters, it was suggested that these products should be evaluated using a "slave" smoking machine and a number of human subjects. 26. The Conference agreed that all the evidence continues to demonstrate the importance of nicotine to the smoker, and again emphasises the importance of keeping separate TPM and nicotine figures. It was suggezted that all analytical data should be reported in relation to the nicotine values. 27. There was a full discussion on the use of PEG as an additive to filtcrs to enhance the removal of phenol(s) and the Conference agreed that it would be generally desirable to continue its use, although it was recognised that cost savings could clearly be achieved if it were eliminated. The substitution of extra triacetin for PEG is not as effective in phenol removal over a long period. It was interesting to learn from Dr. Fordyce that consumer tests showed a preference for filter tip cigarettes containing PEG; results from Canada and Louisville tended to confirm this. Because of the German Food Regulations, PEG is not used on filters in Germany. 28. There was a discussion on the use of DEG, and, while the Conference appreciated the special position in G,-~rmany, it endorsed the AGP recommendation. Dr. Seehofer pointed out that the DEG used was subject to a rigidly specified limit of 0. 04% monoglycol. While it was recognised that the AGP Minutes should not include the scientific detailed reasons for the recommendations., Dr. Felton CO CO c::) BATCo document for Province of British Columbia 9 November 1999 - 8 - agreed to supply the background scientific references to the decisions for the use of research staff 29. Herr Sottorf informed the Conference that, although the threatened ban of the use of coumarin on tobacco products had not yet occurred, the German Industry had voluntarily discontinued the use of coumarin on cigarettes, while continuing its use on pipe tobaccos. Dr. Seehofer agreed to send the relevant scientific paper by Bar and Griepentrog to Dr. Felton, so that the matter might be taken up with BIBRA. Meanwhile, the Conference agreed that the Additives Guidance Panel's advised limits should stand. There was some discussion on coumarin substitues, and Dr. Sanford agreed to supply samples of octahydrocoumarin either directly or ihro'ugh Dr. Hughes. 30. The Conference considered the bioassay results of PEI-treated filters, and although these are somewhat inconclusive, suggested an upper limit of 3% weight of the filter. 31. There was a general discussion on non-tobacco materials and, largely due to the difficulties foreseen with the addition of nicotine, the Conference did not envisage at present the likely success of a totally non-tobacco cigarette. However, it now seems quite likely that non-tobacco materials will be successfully incorporated into cigarettes as blend constituents, particularly in health orientated products. A large usage of non-tobacco materials would be likely to increase the demand for high-nicotine tobaccos. 32. It is foreseen that the use of reconstituted tobaccos will increase both for economic reasons and on health grounds, despite the possibility of increased carbon monoxide production. It also appears likely that some of the non-tobacco binding materials are becoming more attractive. Dr. Seehofer agreed to supply samples of cigarettes, made by a variety of reconstitution processes from a single blend of tobacco, for submission'to the hyperplasia and other short-term bio tests. Dr. Fordyce also offered to send some cigarettes containing non-tobacco binders. Dr. Hughes suggested that R. & D.E. might examine the combustion characteristics by thermo gravimetric analysis and other techniques. The proposal that ethanol-extracted tobacco might be combined with one of the non-tobacco binders was accepted and Dr. Seehofer undertook to arrange a supply of such a product at the optimal sheet thickness. This means in the long run that the basic technology of the cigarette industry will move more into the realm of chemical engineering, and this could have important effects on many other Company activities. cz:) CO 00 (Z) /9. C=) C:) BATCo document for Province of BritiSh Columbia 9 November 1999 - 9 - 33. The Conference considered what the characteristics of the "safest" cigarette might be, in terms of the criteria established earlier. It would contain some or all of the following features: (a) . Reconstituted and/or non-tobacco smoking materials (b) CRS treated by the St. Pauli or similar process (c) tobacco bearing additives to modify combustion (d) a triple filter containing carbon and possibly water, sodium carbonate, manganese dioxide (e) possible construction as an axial and/or ventilated cigarette It was decided to accept as a research objective that such a prototype cigarette should be developed. When it is judged to have sufficient acceptability of taste as a prototype product, it should be manufactured on a scale sufficient to permit complete bioassay. Dr. Hughes agreed that R. & D. E. , Southampton, would undertake this, and Dr. Seehofer offered to supply stems treated by the St. Pauli process. 34. The ARIEL project was reviewed and samples were distributed by Dr. Hughes. It was agreed that this had been well worth pursuing, but it was felt that this should not be taken further at this stage. It was also agreed that the patent coverage might well be reduced to a few key countries. 3 s. The Conference recognised that problems associated with pesticides and insecticides were matters of world-wide concern to the whole industry, and were outside the competitive field. The special position in Germany was appreciated by the members, and it was agreed that any specific information requested by Dr. Seehofer should be sent to him as quickly as possible. 36. The Conference was informed of the current investigation into Black Fat tobacco, and agreed that, prima facie, further investigation of this product would be desirable on health grounds. 37. There was a general discussion on the role played by the new Research Planning section, established following the last Conference. Great appreciation was expressed all round for the service being provided on Smoking and Health Information, and particularly for the critical commentary provided. The planning activity, however, has not yet proceeded far enough for its usefulness to be assessed. Sir Charles Ellis suggested that the various programmes, including Harrogate, Lokstedt, JANUS, and Huntingdon, might be usefully analysed CO CO BATCO document for Province of BritiSh Columbia 9 November 1999 - 10 - under the following headings: (a) Modified Tobaccos (b) Health Research (c) Consumer preference and psychological and physiological factors (d) Process Improvement, etc. The Conference agreed to assist in this task by informing Dr. Felton of the project objectives listed in the programmes. The aim is for each laSoratory to control its own work in such a way that it integrates into a total effort, so that the laboratory gets the maximum advantage. 38. There followed a full discussion on the application of Rasearch and Development techniques for Product Development. It appears likely that Philip Morris, in particular, are more successful in this thanB.A.T. Dr. Griffith adversely compared the general position of Research in the B.A.T. Group with that in Philip Morris. He reported that Philip Morris are currently doubling their research expenditure and stated, for example, that they are using low resolution mass spectrometry techniques to determine how to utilise Venezuelan tobaccos. The members reviewed the methods of analysis of competitors' blends, and recognised that all the techniques available rely on visual examination and separation which is necessarily time- consuming and somewhat crude. It was agreed that there would be enormous advantage if more precise techniques could be developed but there was no indication that this was likely. 39. A general discussion on the problems of product design and sensory assessment concluded that professional psychology- - cbuld play an important part in this field, particularly if integrated Into research programmes along with other disciplines - 40. Owing to the trend towards reduced TPM and nicotine, it was agreed that more attention must be given to flavour. It was, however, pointed out that in some situations the maintenance of nicotine delivery at the normal level may overcome taste and flavour deficiencies due to low TPIA. The use of non-tobacco materials would accentuate this problem. The use of finely-cut tobacco and tobacco extracts in the filter in order to enhance the flavour are C=) worthy of further consideration. co c0 c::) BATCO document for Province of BritiSh Columbia 9 November 1999 - il - 41. The Meeting agreed that, in general, a substantial reduction in TPM (e.g. from 15 mg to 10 mg) will lead to considerable differences in taste and that these differences will be observed particularly when the observers are aware that changes have been made; however, as far as the reaction of the smoking public is concerned, it may be possible to make such changes without significant reaction, especially if these are made slowly. 42. In discussing the possible taste deficiencies associated with low TPM cigarettes, Dr. Fordyce suggested that attempts might be made to express sensory responses in terms of intensity per unit weight of TPM.. 43. The Coiiference confirmed its belief that the trend towards multiple filters, including carbon filters, would continue. This should achieve lower gas phase deliveries. In this connection, the idea put forward by Dr. Smith of Montreal on mixed-bed filters with coincident specificity was considered well worth pursuing. Mr. Wade agreed to follow this up and to explore the patent situation. 44. General opinion was that further filter development should be aimed largely at changing the composition of the smoke in a desirable sense, instead of merely reducing the total quantity of smoke. 45. The Conference agreed that Montreal should be encouraged to pursue their suggestion on the treatment of tobacco with sodium silicate in order to alter smoke characteristics. 46. Dr. Fordyce described the treatment of Australian tobacco with 2% citric acid in an autoclave for short periods of about 2 minutes, and the benefits conferred on the smoking qualities. The irritation of the smoke was reduced, and there was a marked increase in the filling power of the tobacco. Dr. Fordyce will send details of this process to members so that the effect on a wide variety.of tobaccos can be investigated on the laboratory scale. The Conference agreed .that this could represent an opportunity for co-ordinated action by the Group, which could obtain results more quickly and over a wider range than those which could be achieved by any one Company. It was agreed that, if the process continued to look promising, R. & D.E. Southampton, would make a more detailed study of the effects on smoke quality; Dr. Sanford also offered, subject to B. & W. Management approval, to carry out a theoretical study of the scale-up of the process. It was agreed further that Australia, Southampton and Louisville should consider the patentability of this process in various countries 47. Following an account of the similarity between the changes which can be brought about by processing conditions, and those attributable ... /12 CO CO BATCo document for Province of British Columbia 9 November 1999 - 12 - to ageing, the meeting felt that considerable caution should be exercised in reducing holding times in the tobacco process, and in terms of tobacco durations, merely to gain short-term economic advantages in terms of inventories etc. Nevertheless, there may present an opportunity for the development of methods of accelerated ageing. 48. Freeze-drying of tobacco was discussed, particularly in the light of the recent publicity from the University of North Carolina. The process is in a very early stage of development, and is unlikely to become of any importance for the next few years at least. It was concluded, however, that such a process might affect the combustion characteristics of tobacco, and it was agreed that R. & D.E. , Southampton, should explore the effect of this and of other processes in this respect. 49. Consideration was given to the Interesting proposal advanced by Dr. Smith of Montreal for the ozone treatment of tobacco and the conclusion was that R. & D.E. should consider this as part of their general programme of Investigating the effects of various tobacco treatments. 50. Mr. Wade reported on the progress made at Bristol on the irradiation of tobacco for mould inhibition. This work is continuing. 51. There was a discussion on information retrieval and the progress of keyword coding at Louisville, Montreal, Hamburg and Sydney. Dr. Sanford agreed to circulate his keyword thesaurus, and to send to Southampton the keywords so far abstracted from R. & D.E. reports. The other members also agreed to circulate their keyword indices. 52. The Meeting was unanimous in agreement that the Conference had been well worthwhile, and it agreed that a period of about nine months between meetings seemed about right. 53. Dr. Green thanked Herr Sottorf and Dr. Seehofer for the excellent orgranisation and for their hospitality. It was agreed that, in general, there were considerable advantages in holding these Conferences at places not too near Company operating centres. Dr. Green suggested the next meeting might be In the United Kingdom at a date to be agreed SJG/BGM 23.6.69. CD 1,0 CO CO C=) BATCo document for Province of British Columbia 9 November 1999