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Meeting with the Minister of Health, 27th April,
1967
Present;- The Minister
Chief Medical Officer (Sir George Godber)
Mr. J.E. Pater (Under-Secretary)
Mis s B. Hirst (Assistant Secretary)
Mr. R.S. Matthews (Private Secretary)
Mr. C.H. Clements
Mr. A..-I.H. Stewart-Moore
Mr. C.R.L. Matchett
Mr. G.F. Todd
After the introductions, C.H.C. said that G.F.T.
would
hard round and read a report. As G.F.T. handed
round the
attached aide-memoire, the Minister said that he
had always
found the tobacco industry's documentaticn to be
first,class.
G.F.T. spo?=_ from the aide-memoire. The Minister
made
no comment during this but gave a wry smile when
G.'F.T. said
that Fimsrorth had sail, th-=t the question what
sh-ould be
said about the content of ci~
garettes was one for the
Minister of Hea1.th. After G.F.T. had finished,
zhe Niniister
said that he had no cbjection to the proposed
press statement
in the last sentence. Them Minister added that the
report
raised a n=ber of issues and that it was most
unlikely that
their consideration of therr. would have been
completed by the
time that the Review was rublished.
The Minister asked if we knew the actual ta:- and
nicotine
figures of different brands of cigarettes, and
G.F.T. handed
round cooies ol~' document F. 1+71 in which the
fi-,ures were
sunu,,arised. The Hinister glanced at these -and
said that he
noted that the figures were on a per cigarette
basis so that
they would be affected by the size of the
cigarette. He
next asked if he was right in concluding that the
range of
nicotine content was from 1.2 to 2.9 mg. per
cigarette.
G.F.T. said he was, except for the very few brands
mentioned
in footnote 3 which had a negligible sale. The
Minister
asked if the manufacturers had considered
advertising lower QP4
nicotine cigarettes as such. Miss Hirst said that
tobacconists.
were selling clg_~rettas rn_~de frcrr, lettuce
leaves that were CD
completely free of nicotlne. 001
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C.H.C. expressed the thanks of the manufacturers
for
the discussion, adding that t"C manufacturars
recognised that
".here were certain types of people who ought not
to vnoke.
-'-ie r i -11 non-smnk rs suff~-,red from
1 ..1.0. interjectod that r a
oti-.er neoDiels smoking. The 'Mir-ister thankod
thc loart"', -Cor
6-isciassing these matters wit". hin.
G.F.T.
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